Topic: Sunday Night Hockey Trivia - Denny's Style

Author: dfnder Original Message Posted: Jul 9 2007 7:25AM


Well I may not be up on current hockey like I was when I was younger but I still know a few things that are relevant today.

As for the fooser's that looked at me in disbelief when i told them that most NHL players shot left and that it was the normal way a right handed player shot. Read the following LOL and eat son's tape ball!!!

Sergei Zubov, Dallas
Chris Chelios, Detroit
Matt Greene, Edmonton
Mathieu Roy, Edmonton
Jason Smith, Edmonton

Steve Staios, Edmonton
Steve Montador, Florida
Mike Van Ryn, Florida
Rob Blake, Los Angeles
Kevin Dallman, Los Angeles

Jamie Heward, Los Angeles
Aaron Miller, Los Angeles
Mike Weaver, Los Angeles
Brent Burns, Minnesota
Kurtis Foster, Minnesota

Mathieu Dandenault, Montreal
Mike Komisarek, Montreal
Shea Weber, Nashville
Marek Zidlicky, Nashville
Brian Rafalski, New Jersey

Bruno Gervais, NY Islanders
Sean Hill, NY Islanders
Radek Martinek, NY Islanders
Dan Girardi, NY Rangers
Karel Rachunek, NY Rangers

Michal Rozsival, NY Rangers
Joe Corvo, Ottawa
Tom Preissing, Ottawa
Nick Boynton, Phoenix
Zbynek Michalek, Phoenix

Derek Morris, Phoenix
Travis Roche, Phoenix
Craig Rivet, San Jose
Matt Walker, St. Louis
Dan Boyle, Tampa Bay

Cory Sarich, Tampa Bay
Wade Belak, Toronto
Pavel Kubina, Toronto
Ian White, Toronto
Kevin Bieksa, Vancouver

Rory Fitzpatrick, Vancouver
Sami Salo, Vancouver
Brent Sopel, Vancouver
Ben Clymer, Washington
Steve Eminger, Washington

Milan Jurcina, Washington
Brian Pothier, Washington



Author: dfnder Reply #1 Posted: Jul 9 2007 7:26AM

Rats I hate this forum at times lol

here it is... I think

BY THE NUMBERS
All the following stats were researched on April 21, 2007. Obviously, it's a fluid situation, with new players continually being called up and whatnot, but any changes would be superficial at best.

And while it may not be pertinent to the discussion, in case you're wondering, goaltenders are deemed right-handed if they catch with their right hand. Only six of the 72 NHL netminders catch right-handed. They are Jose Theodore, Mathieu Garon, Josh Harding, Tomas Vokoun, Rick DiPietro, and Jean-Sabastien Giguere.




NHL RIGHT-HANDED SHOTS


NHL SKATERS
Right-handed 237 (34.9%)
Left-handed 443 (65.1%)
Total 680

FORWARDS
Right-handed 165 (37.9%)
Left-handed 270 (62.1%)
Total 435

DEFENSEMEN
Right-handed 72 (29.4%)
Left-handed 173 (70.6%)
Total 245

GOALTENDERS
Right-handed 6 (8.3%)
Left-handed 66 (91.7%)
Total 72


RIGHT-HANDED SHOTS BY TEAM

Team F D T
Boston 9 3 12
Carolina 7 4 11
Dallas 5 6 11
Los Angeles 6 5 11
Phoenix 7 4 11
Washington 7 4 11
NY Islanders 7 3 10
Ottawa 8 2 10
Buffalo 8 1 9
Chicago 6 3 9
NY Rangers 6 3 9
Toronto 6 3 9
Vancouver 5 4 9
Anaheim 6 2 8
Calgary 6 2 8
Colorado 6 2 8
Edmonton 4 4 8
Nashville 6 2 8
Minnesota 5 2 7
St. Louis 6 1 7
Florida 4 2 6
New Jersey 5 1 6
San Jose 5 1 6
Atlanta 4 1 5
Columbus 3 2 5
Montreal 3 2 5
Pittsburgh 5 0 5
Tampa Bay 3 2 5
Detroit 3 1 4
Philadelphia 4 0 4

Totals 165 72 237


MOST RIGHT-HANDED DEFENSEMEN

Team D
Dallas 6
Los Angeles 5
Carolina 4
Phoenix 4
Washington 4
Vancouver 4
Edmonton 4


FEWEST RIGHT-HANDED DEFENSEMEN

Team D
Philadelphia 0
Pittsburgh 0
Atlanta 1
Buffalo 1
Detroit 1
New Jersey 1
San Jose 1
St. Louis 1


RIGHT-HANDED SHOTS BY COUNTRY

F D T
Canada 86 44 130 (54.9%)
USA 39 16 55 (23.2%)
World 40 12 52 (21.9%)

Totals 165 72 237


PERCENTAGE OF NATIONALITY RIGHT-HANDED

T RH RH%
Canada 373 130 34.9%
USA 128 55 43.0%
World 179 52 29.1%


PERCENTAGE OF RIGHT-HANDED DEFENSEMEN BY COUNTRY

TD RHD RH%
Canada 121 44 36.4%
USA 52 16 31.0%
World 72 12 16.6%


RIGHT-HANDED DEFENSEMEN

Joe DiPenta, Anaheim
Ric Jackman, Anaheim
Shane Hnidy, Atlanta
Aaron Ward, Boston
Dennis Wideman, Boston

Jason York, Boston
Teppo Numminen, Buffalo
Richie Regehr, Calgary
Rhett Warrener, Calgary
Anton Babchuk, Carolina

Mike Commodore, Carolina
Andrew Hutchinson, Carolina
David Tanabe, Carolina
Adrian Aucoin, Chicago
Brent Seabrook, Chicago

James Wisniewski, Chicago
Patrice Brisebois, Colorado
Ken Klee, Colorado
Adam Foote, Columbus
Duvie Westcott, Columbus

Nolan Baumgartner, Dallas
Philippe Boucher, Dallas
Lars Helminen, Dallas
Jon Klemm, Dallas
Stephane Robidas, Dallas

Sergei Zubov, Dallas
Chris Chelios, Detroit
Matt Greene, Edmonton
Mathieu Roy, Edmonton
Jason Smith, Edmonton

Steve Staios, Edmonton
Steve Montador, Florida
Mike Van Ryn


Author: dfnder Reply #2 Posted: Jul 9 2007 8:02AM


I also made a comment that about 80% of the players shoot left, I knew this was prolly not super accurate. I did think that more plyers shot left in the past compared with today so I had a quick look for some team stats from the '70's

Here are the players that shot right on the 1972 Canada - Russia series team (team had 35 members including goalies) This team had the best Canadians playing for it with one exception - Bobby Hull and yes he shot left lol.

Bill Goldsworthy
Ron Ellis
Rod GIlbert
Stan Mikita
Mickey Redmond
Jocelyn Guevermont

17.14% shot right and 82.86% shot left

PS if you are wondering why I'm still up it is because i forgot about the road closures :(


Author: Robert G Reply #3 Posted: Jul 9 2007 11:50AM

Question was not if there were left or right handed players the question was if right handed players shot left

"And while it may not be pertinent to the discussion, in case you're wondering, goaltenders are deemed right-handed if they catch with their right hand"

and if he droped his glove hand to his stick wich side does he shoot from......


Author: dfnder Reply #4 Posted: Jul 9 2007 1:42PM


OK I'm not going to call each NHL player and ask them as the stats don't actualy say if they are right side dominant or left. It will take some extrapolation on your part but here is a tidbit

According to Wikipedia, "Approximately 8 to 15% of the adult population is left-
handed." Under this theory, only 8-15% of the hockey sticks sold
would be left handed.

Now go into any sports store (not canadian tire) and compare the size of the selection of right handed sticks to left handed. As a kid growing up I always bemoaned the fact that I had less sticks to chose from because i shot right.

HeHe and don't bother with some lame brained arguement that the players in the NHL are mainly left side dominant cause that is just horse hockey



Author: Red Pepper Reply #5 Posted: Jul 10 2007 1:15AM

As a right handed person, who shot left playing hockey growing up, I would have to agree. On all my teams growing up, the majority of players (I would say 65-70%) shot left handed. There are some players who were right handed who shot right as well (but not as much). I think this stat is a commonly known stat to all who played hockey growing up.


Author: The Next One. Reply #6 Posted: Jul 10 2007 3:05AM

There is also more of a demand for left handed shooters in hockey, kinda like the demand for left handed pitchers in baseball.


Author: dfnder Reply #7 Posted: Jul 10 2007 10:17AM


Some author theorized that when children first pick up a stick that they grab the top end with their dominant hand and thats why they end up shooting left.

When saying to people what way a child should shoot I always say let the child decide what feels natural. So get a straight stick, demonstrate a few times, then let them grab the stick and try for a little bit. I would even go as far as showing them the opposite hand to see if they prefer that after a couple minutes.

Playing left now, even though I can shoot left, feels so awkward that I think a child probably feels the same way when they first use a hockey stick. Maybe they really dont feel a need to shoot a given way, maybe its a learned preference. Either way, all I know is that I was right and everyone else at the table was wrong hehe (although I don't think Earl said I was wrong).




Author: Red Pepper Reply #8 Posted: Jul 10 2007 7:57PM

"There is also more of a demand for left handed shooters in hockey, kinda like the demand for left handed pitchers in baseball. "

I always heard the opposite growing up. Since there more lefties there was more need for right handed players, so they could have someone for the left wing (right hand/left wing/better angle on net when shooting). But there may be other info out there(then my own) to prove me incorrect.


Author: dfnder Reply #9 Posted: Jul 10 2007 9:48PM


I aggree with Jeff, I was going to post something about it but the heat got to me.


Author: Aged Whine & Cheese Reply #10 Posted: Jul 11 2007 3:02AM

You're still wrong Pete. I'm convinced you and Jeffy have your facts wrong but I haven't had the time to find out the true stats.
Tim


Author: dfnder Reply #11 Posted: Jul 11 2007 3:48AM


Tim I suggest you get back into your rollerblades and see if you can jog your cerebral cortex back into position. The only stats to support your theory would be fabricated ones and since I've already supplied fabricated stats - mine will always carry more weight!!




Author: dfnder Reply #12 Posted: Jul 11 2007 3:49AM





Author: dfnder Reply #13 Posted: Jul 11 2007 3:50AM




are my emotes eating away at the fabric of your being yet hehe


Author: ButHeDoesntLookAsian Reply #14 Posted: Jul 12 2007 6:17AM

Phil Mickelson is a righty who plays golf left handed. In golf, the stronger arm should be the leading arm or else your shots are less straight. The physics involved are the same as when pulling a cart at the grocery store as opposed to pushing it. Something pulled is easier to keep in alignment then something pushed due to the some law of bodies in motion (at least my golf DVD says so).

So in golf, people who play right handed tend to compensate by using less right arm strength even if they are stronger on their right side. Maybe in hockey having a strong lead arm in a slap shot is better too? Also a slapsot does not go 300 yards so having it perfectly aimed is not as critical as hard? Just a thought...

In hockey, when stick handling at full speed in open ice I think the top hand is more involved so a lefty uses more of their right arm. At slower speed and while being checked the lower hand is more important.

God I miss these wonderful but useless postings. Hope everyone is well. Wish me luck for VIFA Asia Open in Malaysia in a couple of weeks. I will be writing some articles for FQ about Asia while there.

Regards,

Fred


Author: Red Pepper Reply #15 Posted: Jul 12 2007 2:12PM

I think a slap shot could go 300 yards, and probably a lot further if allowed. I golf right handed, and I also tend to use my right arm more, especially at the end of my swing to help me develop a draw. Not sure what my point is/was I just wanted to type something. Good luck in Malaysia!


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