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Just made a video of us practising to have a look at our shots in slow mo using my new video camera.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnCJYLz9nfg
I'm the last pull shot. I'm trying to improve my pull shot speed. In particular, my pull is sometimes slow to accelerate and the long pull is therefore "semi-raceable".
I'm hoping to drag these guys out to Juliet's this Thursday.
Graeme
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Watched your shot, it looks pretty quick. I don't shoot a pull usually but the pro master tips on this site totally helped me learn it.
http://mindsetfoosball.com/Forums.aspx
Also all of the other tips are pretty good, its worth a read if anyone is bored at work too and hasn't seen this yet.
On just mindsetfoosball.com there is an interview with Ryan Moore.
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Thanks for the link. there are some good tips there. For me, set up seems to be critical.. ball touching the man, good stance, and light arm with no tension.
I've been timing my shot and it's about 1/3 of a second (20 frames at 60 frames per second in the video) from the first movement of the ball to when it's past the goalie and in the net.
I'd be interested to see how this compares to the speed of other pull shots to see if the speed is "good enough".
By comparison, the rollover in that video is about 1/5 of a second (12 frames at 60 fps) from when the player rocks excessively in the direction of the shot (which would be your indication of a shot if you were trying to race it) to when the ball is in the net.
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good stuff. Glad to see you out Thursday.
And if you'd like to see how it is against other pulls for speed Graeme, let me and/Brian know. I'll be happy to shoot a few. More than likely Brian would be too. Heck, maybe even Eric G. would be into checking speed, and Kent(?).
Smooth takeoff helps this slower old guy too
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Speed isn't everything, if guys are racing you well it is usually because of other tells also.
Often when players (especially relatively new players) shoot a pull it is easy to tell what they are going to do and when they are going to do it. Sometimes it takes a few shots to pick up on but almost everyone has some tells and rookies are usually worse for them.
Often when players plan on shooting a long they set up differently, the stance of the body is more ready for a long etc. If a player is going to shoot strait or short they might not get "set up" as much.
Also when actually shooting, videotape your entire body and check to see how much movement there is. Sometimes your shoulder will lead ahead of time and the body twists early before the takeoff of the ball. If you can't eliminate that then try using it to your advantage... You could body fake - matt botros is really good at this, watch him shooting even though he shoots a roller it is still very effective regardless of what shot you shooot. If you throw in a fake with a slow takeoff and then brush back up to the strait hole from about the one hole. It is a really good shot that tucks behind both of the defending men and can be sneaky. Watch Andy (hardboiled) shoot that one and he uses it really effectivly.
Once you have done that once or twice, you can really pound the long without the guy being able to just race it.
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"Also when actually shooting, videotape your entire body and check to see how much movement there is. Sometimes your shoulder will lead ahead of time and the body twists early before the takeoff of the ball"
great tip Will...!
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Your 'smooth' take off,'old guy',is because while your sitting on the sit down area of your walker,you,with glacial speed,push away from the table while executing your stroke.
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never say the word stroke to an old guy
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I'm trying to remember who the old guy is here.
Cue joke in 3....2.....1....
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The mind is the first to go, Andy.
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Darn it Simon! You said stroke. Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
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ah, speaking of old guys....
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