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| Topic: Nov 16 Results and Points Update SUPERDOUBS! |
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This week we did a super doubles format, which was pretty fun. We took the 4 teams that had the most points and had them play off in a best of 5 double elim bracket, and then had the other 7 teams play in a standard tournament. The highest finishing 4 teams from the lower chart played against the teams in the pro tournament. One of the reasons we came up with this format was to get more money into the hands of lower ranked players, but with the doubles format it didn't end up working out that way, although with singles we did see more am's win. Christain and Simon won the top chart, beating Ben and I 3-1 3-1 to double dip in the final. There were a bunch of really close games including Rog and Mike against Garry and Darcy. I think it went to 5-3 in the third in a back and forth battle. In the Am Chart the "favorite" coming in based on points (and I think probably the favorite regardless) was Chad and Paul. They were upset in the first round, but fought back into the final winning all of the B side games. Cam was put on two teams and made his way into 1st place playing with Jamie (who was clutch the entire night) and 3rd playing with Sam. Carlo and Brian finished 4th, and they beat Team Machine to take the $$$ for 4th. Great playing everyone! Points: Stranks, Will 1462 Edwards, Simon 1428 Dunn, Christian 1405 Lawrence, Shane 1228 Wilkins, Ben 1216 Penner, Roger 1202 McDonald, Tom 1163 Burgardt, Garry 1147 Scaife, Darcy 1064 Luft, Carey 1003 Humberstone, Paul 996 Simeon, Jamie 976 Myszczyszyn, Tobin 965 Burrows, Cam 951 Tse, Desmond 930 Trynchuk, Dale 928 Rupertus, Lindsey 920 Spencer, Chad 909 Schnieder, Jeff 886 Smithson, Justin 882 X, Jeff 881 Campbell, Lance 880 Wilkins, Sam 877 So, Albert 870 Kerr, Chris 865 Daly, Ritchie 862 Green, James 857 Deeg, Phil 855 Hopfner, Jordan 854 Djakovic, Christoff 850 Kelly, Brad 849 Kimber, Daniel 842 Gish, Brian 842 X, Darnel 841 Ustina, Greg 834 x, Ryan 825 Volkman, Dallyn 825 Nasir, Uzair 825 Moir, Zak 824 Taft, Spencer 824 Lehman, Blair 823 Faulkner, Stephanii 822 Johnston, Mike 819 Wood, Greg 818 Hasiuk, Jody 816 X, Gerald 811 Wong, Felix 811 Phillips, Mike 806 O''Stream, Don 806 Perira, Carlos 805 C, Erek 803 Gibson, katy 801 Bennett, Doug 801 Baayens, Dean 801 Hodinski, Jasmine 801 |
Posted: Nov 18 2010 8:38PM
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I would like to hear comments on this thread if possible from as many people as possible! Do you like the "Two Tiers" where the top pro players do not play agianst the lower ranked players? Should I think about incorporating these events, and maybe a "Super DYP" involving the top 8-12 players in one DYP and the rest in a second DYP, same format as the singles and doubles? Should I wipe them out and go back to the normal format? Should we do exclusively two tiered events? Or a mixture? LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK! I'll post our format for next week once we get some responses. |
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BEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TOP 5! |
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Wow, I gained a whole 2 points. Problem with the super format is it protects the top players from an upset and they don't risk losing a lot of points. Also the am's will be limited on the points they can gain. Go back and give points for the finals and see how much the am's gain. Also the winner of the Am division doesn't win any money of he loses to a pro in the final. |
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Hey don't complain about only gaining 2 points. Christian and I dropped about 25 last time we won an event because we lost one match too! That is the way it should be, its tough to win points when you have lots of them, embrace the challenge! Partner up with a player that has 900 points, then win the thing. When Des and I won a BYP that is what put me into first place, because it is tough to beat two pro's when you have an Am partner! Des BTW played amazing in that event, but that was just smart partner choice by me. The $$$ thing kind of backfired. It worked well in singles, but in doubles maybe we will just eliminate the "crossover" or have it only count for the first place teams playing for the gateway bucks or something like that. |
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Who's complaining? I said "Wow" |
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I wasn't tryin to say that you were complaining, I guess it was poor word choice on my part. |
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Nice work Ben! Will, i'd say this format is probably better for rookies to get play time but it will be harder for them to move up, as simon mentioned. It's also harder for guys in my position to get alot of games in. Especially being that all of the tables are in use constantly, so not alot of time for pickup games. Maybe a DYP will be a bit different, never know until you try! |
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Could also look at doing just a straight DYP with everyone involved and then do the super event based on whoever is drawn together. Just a thought. |
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>>>One of the reasons we came up with this format was to get more money into the hands of lower ranked players, but with the doubles format it didn't end up working out that way, although with singles we did see more am's win.<<< I dont think singles was that successful for the AM players In Singles - 1st (yet to be decided), 2nd was a pro player, 3rd was a pro player, 4th was an AM player In Doubles - 1st was a pro team, 2nd was a pro team, 3rd was a pro team, 4th was an AM team The format was fun, I just think there should be a little tweaking to get the AM players some more $$ and some more points. |
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I guess that is true, I still think Tobin is going to beat Christian pretty easily though! Sam beat me 7-0, Ben and Simon both won in "overtime" essentially, so at least the games were close. In doubles it wasn't quite as hard because less slop goals go in so it makes it a little better for the pro team. As far as not being able to gain points in the lower division, that is not true. 11-20 from before this weeks event Humberstone, Paul 985 Myszczyszyn, Tobin 965 Tse, Desmond 930 Trynchuk, Dale 928 Rupertus, Lindsey 920 Simeon, Jamie 917 Spencer, Chad 898 Burrows, Cam 892 Kerr, Chris 883 Wilkins, Sam 883 11-20 after Cam and Jamie won: Humberstone, Paul 996 Simeon, Jamie 976 Myszczyszyn, Tobin 965 Burrows, Cam 951 Tse, Desmond 930 Trynchuk, Dale 928 Rupertus, Lindsey 920 Spencer, Chad 909 Schnieder, Jeff 886 Smithson, Justin 882 Jamie went from 917 up to 976 and Cam went from 892 up to 951. Paul came in second place so that is the only reason that Jamie didn't jump up into the 11th spot. Considering they both started out lower than 16th and are now in 12th and 14th place I think it is fair to assume they could move up into that top group. Also worth noting is that the top 10 has only had very small amounts of change in the last 6-8 months, so it is not like people were moving up more before we had this format. |
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As for the money though, I do need to change how that is paid out. From now on for SUPER events assuming we have 20 players (average) 1st Pro and Am $10 2nd Pro and Am $10 3rd Pro and Am $10 Total paid out so far is $60 If you finish in the top 3 you get your money back Then we Play off for: 1st $ 30 2nd $ 20 3rd $ 15 You have to beat the other team to win this. Does the point spot need to be increased? Maybe start at 3 but flip for serve? It is SO hard already with the two spot, but somehow more pro's have been pulling it off. Any more thougths? |
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